Sunday, July 27, 2014

Expat life: Cambodia vs India

I've been in Cambodia for about four months now. To be honest, while I love my job, I don't love living in Cambodia. I live in an expat bubble, and I find it incredibly frustrating. Expats, quite frankly, do not live in the same Phnom Penh as Cambodians. It's true that I never really intended to move to Cambodia, but I feel like if I'm going to be here, I should at least try to immerse a little bit and make Cambodian friends. But immersion is nearly impossible.

A perfect example: a few weeks ago, Kingdom Brewery was throwing an all-you-can-drink with burgers and fries party, with a $10 cover fee. I went with some of my expat coworkers, and as soon as I entered the brewery I realized that, besides the employees, there wasn't a single Cambodian in the crowd. This is a regular occurrence but it never ceases to upset me.

This is unlikely to happen in Delhi, Mumbai, or Bangalore. I can't imagine walking into a bar in India and not seeing any Indians. Expats tend to mingle in middle- to upper-class Indian circles. Certainly there are bars that expats frequent, but you would always see plenty of Indians too.

From what I've seen, there appear to be several reasons for the differences between the expat experience in Cambodia and in India:

1) There is a significantly higher concentration of expats in Cambodia. Cambodia receives more foreign aid per capita than any other country, and with foreign aid comes foreign NGO employees. I read somewhere that there are about 60,000 expats in Phnom Penh, a city of only 1.5 million people. I don't know how many expats live in Delhi, but Delhi is a city of 20 million. You don't see nearly as many foreign faces on a daily basis.

2) Foreigners who come to India are genuinely interested in India. India is a pretty intense country to live in, and this weeds people out. The foreigners who stay want to be in India. They have decided that it is worth it to put up with challenges of everyday life to experience India. A lot of expats in Cambodia--myself included--sort of just end up here. Many of us have no prior interest in the country, and we're here out of circumstance. These people are less likely to be interested in immersion and befriending Cambodians.

3) There is a larger income difference between expats and locals in Cambodia than in India. I made the same salary as my coworkers in India, but in Cambodia I earn a much higher salary than my coworkers. Expats in Cambodia tend to hold higher positions than their Cambodian colleagues, and quite honestly the NGOs might not be able to attract foreign talent at Cambodian salaries (I'm totally part of this system: I absolutely would not have moved to Cambodia if I had been offered a lower salary). Because foreigners in India want to be in India, and the kind of lifestyle desired by foreigners is much more affordable in India, expats are generally willing to accept lower salaries there (at least in my experience).  As my Indian friends and I earned similar salaries, we could afford the same social activities. However, with the big income gap in Cambodia, I would always think twice before inviting a Cambodian out to dinner--and when I do invite them, they usually turn me down to eat at home, understandably. This income gap is a huge challenge to building a social life with Cambodians. (Admittedly it's on me to be more creative with social activities, but what doesn't cost money? There are no parks in Phnom Penh! I'd be open to any suggestions you have...)

4) Educated Indians are much more comfortable in English than educated Cambodians. India is an incredibly diverse country with hundreds of languages, and thanks to British imperialism, English has become the lingua franca between cultures. If someone from Tamil Nadu wants to chat with someone from West Bengal, they are likely to speak in English. Educated Indians often socialize in English whether or not a foreigner is in their presence. In contrast, Cambodia is much more homogeneous and everyone speaks Khmer. There is no need for a second language to communicate. Additionally, many higher education institutions in India teach their classes in English; in Cambodia, university classes are usually conducted in Khmer. As a result, educated Indians can communicate and socialize much more comfortably with foreigners than Cambodians can (there are of course exceptions, but I find this to be true in general).

Another note about expat life in Cambodia vs. India: expats tend to stay longer in India. With the exception of summer internships, expats tend to stay in India for at least one year. In contrast, at any time of the year in Cambodia you find expats who are here only for a few months. I regularly meet people who I think are interesting, only to learn they are leaving next month. The transience of the expat community here has really demotivated me from making many friends. Why should I invest time and effort into befriending people who are leaving so quickly? I know that's a bad attitude, but I can't help myself. I've been focusing my efforts on the longer-term people instead (I use "longer-term" loosely; I mean more than 6 months), but they're not always so easy to find.

Needless to say, I greatly miss my social life in India (and, obviously, in the States). Hopefully things will get better for me in Cambodia soon.

31 comments:

  1. This is a really fascinating analysis!

    ReplyDelete
  2. Interesting. Just a note about English and India. Although the introduction of English into India was due to British imperialism, the reason for its persistence and spread is Indian nationalism and Christian missionaries. English was supposed to be removed from the public sphere by 1965, and replaced by Hindi. However, when the time came for removing English, the non-Hindi speaking states (which made up the vast majority of the population) rose up in protest and it was agreed to continue with English as an official and link language.

    If nationalism in India had proceeded to develop on European and South East Asian lines (along linguistic lines), you would see much less English in India today.

    ReplyDelete
  3. Really excellent analysis. Knowing both cultures.. this article has correct detailing at the highest level.. well done.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Can anybody tell me 1000dollers is enough to stay in Cambodia with family (Indian)

      Delete
    2. Can anybody tell me 1000dollers is enough to stay in Cambodia with family (Indian)

      Delete
  4. Hello Everybody,
    My name is Mrs Sharon Sim. I live in Singapore and i am a happy woman today? and i told my self that any lender that rescue my family from our poor situation, i will refer any person that is looking for loan to him, he gave me happiness to me and my family, i was in need of a loan of S$250,000.00 to start my life all over as i am a single mother with 3 kids I met this honest and GOD fearing man loan lender that help me with a loan of S$250,000.00 SG. Dollar, he is a GOD fearing man, if you are in need of loan and you will pay back the loan please contact him tell him that is Mrs Sharon, that refer you to him. contact Dr Purva Pius,via email:(urgentloan22@gmail.com) Thank you.

    BORROWERS APPLICATION DETAILS


    1. Name Of Applicant in Full:……..
    2. Telephone Numbers:……….
    3. Address and Location:…….
    4. Amount in request………..
    5. Repayment Period:………..
    6. Purpose Of Loan………….
    7. country…………………
    8. phone…………………..
    9. occupation………………
    10.age/sex…………………
    11.Monthly Income…………..
    12.Email……………..

    Regards.
    Managements
    Email Kindly Contact: urgentloan22@gmail.com

    ReplyDelete
  5. Are you tired of seeking loans and mortgages from banks? Have you been turned down constantly by your banks and other financial institutions due to bad credit? Are you about loosing your home due to financial constraints? Global Lenders Inc is here to set you free from debt. For immediate enquires you can contact us via email powerfinance7@gmail.com

    LOAN APPLICATION FORM
    **********************
    1) Full Name:.....
    2) Gender:........
    3) Loan Amount Needed :...
    4) Loan Duration:...............
    5) Country:.......
    6) Home Address:..
    7) Mobile Number:.....
    8) Fax Number:......
    9) Occupation:....
    10) Monthly Income:......
    11) Salary Date:....
    12) Purpose of loan;...
    13) Where did you get our loan advertisement:....
    14)Contact email:........

    Awaiting your swift response.
    May Allah bless you.
    IBRAHIM MUSA
    Leverage Pvt Ltd.
    Associate Director
    power Financial Service Pvt.
    Contact Us At :powerfinance7@gmail.com

    ReplyDelete
  6. Are you in need of a loan? Do you want to pay off your bills? Do you want to be financially stable? All you have to do is to contact us for more information on how to get started and get the loan you desire. This offer is open to all that will be able to repay back in due time. Note-that repayment time frame is negotiable and at interest rate of 3% just email us creditloan11@gmail.com

    ReplyDelete
  7. My name is.Mrs.Cynthia Corvin. I live in Ukraine i am a happy woman today? i need to use this time to tell all people how i got my loan from this honest and God fearing man loan lender that help me with a loan of $140,000 please contact him. if you also need a loan without any problem he name is Dr.Olivia Alexander email {Droliviaalexander@gmail.com} tell him that is Mrs.Cynthia Corvin that refer you to he contact

    LOAN APPLICATION FORM [Fill and Return]

    1. Full Names:------
    2. Country:-----------
    3. State:---------------
    4. Contact Address:-------
    5. Loan Amount Needed:------
    6. Duration of the Loan--------
    7. Monthly Income:----------------
    8. Direct Telephone Number:-----------
    Have you applied for loan online before (yes or no)

    EMAIL: {Droliviaalexander@gmail.com}
    Best Regards.

    ReplyDelete

  8. Do you need Personal Loan?
    Business Cash Loan?
    Unsecured Loan
    Fast and Simple Loan?
    Quick Application Process?
    Approvals within 24-72 Hours?
    No Hidden Fees Loan?
    Funding in less than 1 Week?
    Get unsecured working capital?
    Email us:(flourishloancredite@gmail.com
    Application Form:
    =================
    Full Name:................
    Loan Amount Needed:.
    Purpose of loan:.......
    Loan Duration:..
    Gender:.............
    Marital status:....
    Location:..........
    Home Address:..
    City:............
    Country:......
    Phone:..........
    Mobile / Cell:....
    Occupation:......
    Monthly Income:....
    Email us(flourishloancredite@gmail.com)

    ReplyDelete
  9. Thank you for sharing! It is really worth sharing and I'm glad that it helps me get immediate cash loans in India from Early salary app & it is great.

    ReplyDelete
  10. This comment has been removed by the author.

    ReplyDelete
  11. The great blog about Cash loan app in india.Thanks for sharing the blog,seems to be interesting and informative too.Could you help me to find more detail about Cash loan app in india

    ReplyDelete
  12. GOOD DAY AND WELCOME TO STANDARD ONLINE FINANCE LTD
    Do you need 100% Finance? I can fix your financial needs with a lower back problem of 3% interest rate. Whatever your circumstances, self employed, retired, have a poor credit rating, we could help. flexible repayment, Contact us through our E-mail at: standardonlineinvestment@gmail.com

    Apply now for all types of loans and get money urgently!
    * The interest rate is 3%
    * Choose between 1 and 35 years of repayment.
    * Choose between monthly and annual repayment plan.
    * Terms and conditions of the flexibility of loans.

    Regards,
    Mr. Abdul Muqse

    ReplyDelete
  13. Private Lender Bentex Funding Group Ltd.
    Greetings to you by (BFGL).
    We are a France-Paris based investment company known as Bentex Funding
    Group Ltd working on expanding its portfolio globally and financing
    projects.

    We would be happy to fund and invest with you in any profitable
    project if you have any viable project we can finance by making mutual
    investment with you. If you are interested, kindly contact us
    on:avitinvestmentauthority2@gmail.com for more details.
    Looking forward hearing from you soonest.
    Yours truly,
    Mrs Rose Larsson.
    (Personal Assistant)
    Bentex Funding Group Ltd(BFGL)
    509 Rue Jacques Coeur,75008 Paris-France
    Paris-France.Bentex Funding Group Ltd (BFGL)

    ReplyDelete
  14. Hello Everybody,
    My name is Mrs Sharon Sim. I live in Singapore and i am a happy woman today? and i told my self that any lender that rescue my family from our poor situation, i will refer any person that is looking for loan to him, he gave me happiness to me and my family, i was in need of a loan of $250,000.00 to start my life all over as i am a single mother with 3 kids I met this honest and GOD fearing man loan lender that help me with a loan of $250,000.00 SG. Dollar, he is a GOD fearing man, if you are in need of loan and you will pay back the loan please contact him tell him that is Mrs Sharon, that refer you to him. contact Dr Purva Pius, call/whats-App Contact Number +918929509036 via email:(urgentloan22@gmail.com) Thank you.

    ReplyDelete
  15. Private Lender Bentex Funding Group Ltd.
    Greetings to you by (BFGL).
    We are a France-Paris based investment company known as Bentex Funding
    Group Ltd working on expanding its portfolio globally and financing
    projects.

    We would be happy to fund and invest with you in any profitable
    project if you have any viable project we can finance by making mutual
    investment with you. If you are interested, kindly contact us
    on:avitinvestmentauthority2@gmail.com for more details.
    Looking forward hearing from you soonest.
    Yours truly,
    Mrs Rose Larsson.
    (Personal Assistant)
    Bentex Funding Group Ltd(BFGL)
    509 Rue Jacques Coeur,75008 Paris-France
    Paris-France.Bentex Funding Group Ltd (BFGL)

    ReplyDelete
  16. Dearest Esteems,

    We are Offering best Global Financial Service rendered to the general public with maximum satisfaction,maximum risk free. Do not miss this opportunity. Join the most trusted financial institution and secure a legitimate financial empowerment to add meaning to your life/business.

    Contact Dr. James Eric Firm via
    Email: fastloanoffer34@gmail.com
    Whatsapp +918929509036
    Best Regards,
    Dr. James Eric.
    Executive Investment
    Consultant./Mediator/Facilitator

    ReplyDelete
  17. GET YOUR BLANK ATM AND CREDIT CARD AT AFFORDABLE PRICE.....

    We sell this cards to all our customers and interested buyers worldwide, the card has a daily withdrawal limit of $5000 and up to $50,000 spending limit in stores and unlimited on POS. *email blankatm988@gmail.com* you can also call or whatsapp us Contact us today for more enlightenment +44(7440495540.

    *BEWARE OF SCAMMERS AND FAKE HACKERS IMPERSONATING US BUT THEY ARE NOT FROM US CONTACT US ONLY VIA THIS CONTACT * WE ARE REAL AND LEGIT...........2019 FUNDS/FORGET ABOUT GETTING A LOAN *email blankatm988@gmail.com, OR +447440495540, (WHATSAPP ONLY).

    CONTACT US NOW AND BE HAPPY FOREVER, WE OPERATE ONLY TO ASSIST THE POOR AND HOPELESS WORLDWIDE TO LIVE A GOOD LIFE AND BECOME RICH FAMILY, AND BE ABLE TO
    PAY THEIR DEPT AND START A GOOD BUSINESS OF ANY AMOUNT, THIS IS A DREAM COMES TRUE TO THE POOR AROUND THE WORLD.

    NOTE: this will only cost a little charge for the preparation and the shipment of the card to your various countries, Thank you.

    ReplyDelete
  18. My Name is Mrs Angela Ann i am from Australia, i will advice the world that Instead of getting a loan you contact blank ATM agent or customer care through their office email, I got my already programmed blank ATM card to withdraw a maximum of $1,000 daily for 30 days. I am so happy about this because i got mine last week and I have used it to get $20,000. Mr Smith is giving out the card just to help the poor and needy though it is illegal and cost little charge for the shipment of the card, but it is something nice and he is not like other people pretending to have the blank ATM cards. And no one gets caught when using the card. get yours from him i fully recommend him. Just send him an email on (blankatm988@gmail.com ) Thank you Mr smith for granting me the privilege of knowing you and giving me financials assistance, i am happy, now i can live again and set up a good business that can sustain me and my family. rush now and be happy like me.

    ReplyDelete
  19. Are You A Business Man Or Woman? Are You In Any Financial Mess Or Do You Need funds To Start Up Your Own Business? Do You Need A Loan To Start A Nice Small Scale And Medium Business?
    Do You Have A Low Credit Score And You Are Finding It Hard To Obtain Capital Loan From Local Banks And Other Financial Institutes?. - Intermediaries / Consultants / Brokers Are Welcome To Bring Their Clients And Are 100% Protected. Interested Parties Should Contact Us For More Information
    Through Via E-mail: quickloan9888@gmail.com.

    I will Like To Inform You That Our Main Goals Are To Help Companies And Entrepreneurs Raise Their Business To better Heights By Investing, Consulting And Raising Capital Without Bank Lending. We Are Qualified In All Aspects Of Financing, Banks And Asset Based Lending. We Have The Ability To Handle All Aspects Of The Financial Needs And Challenges Of Our Clients, Including; Interested Parties or persons Should Contact Us For More Information.
    Through Via E-mail: quickloan9888@gmail.com,

    WE OFFER ALL KIND OF LOANS - APPLY FOR AFFORDABLE LOANS.


    *BEWARE OF SCAMMERS AND FAKE HACKERS IMPERSONATING US BUT THEY ARE NOT FROM
    US CONTACT US ONLY VIA THIS CONTACT *
    WE ARE REAL AND LEGIT.
    Through Via E-mail: quickloan9888@gmail.com,

    SEND US YOUR DETAILS THROUGH OUR EMAIL OR WHATSAPP FOR THE PROCCESSING OF YOUR LOAN, THANK YOU:
    - Your full Name:
    - Loan amount needed:
    - Loan Duration:
    - Purpose of loan:
    - City / Country:
    - Telephone:
    - How Did You Hear About Us:

    NOTE: This loan requires little charges for the processing and trust from our customers worldwide...we have change many lifes and willing to do more, contact us through our office email and somebody will attend to you fast...thank you.

    ReplyDelete
  20. Invest with 200$ and get a returns of 5,000$ within seven business working days.
    Why wasting your precious time online looking for a loan? When there is an opportunity for you to invest with 200$ and get a returns of 5,000$ within seven business working days. Contact us now for more information if interested on how you can earn big with just little amount. This is all about investing into Crude Oil and Gas Business.

    Email: investmoneyoilgas@gmail.com

    ReplyDelete
  21. Awesome work ! I am planning to travel but I was confused about flight bookings, your post gave me an amazing idea to explore for Cambodia tour package . Nice post, keep posting.

    ReplyDelete
  22. URGENT LOAN CONTACT US FOR INSTANT APPROVED

    Do you need a genuine Loan to settle your bills and startup
    business? contact us now with your details to get a good
    Loan at a low rate of 3% per Annual email us:
    Do you need Personal Finance?
    Business Cash Finance?
    Unsecured Finance
    Fast and Simple Finance?
    Quick Application Process?
    Finance. Services Rendered include,
    *Debt Consolidation Finance
    *Business Finance Services
    *Personal Finance services Help
    Please write back if interested with our interest rate ibrahimfahimmostafaloanfirm@gmail.com

    ReplyDelete
  23. Dear Customers,

    We invite you all to participate in our new business and project funding program, We are currently funding for Business start-up Business developments, Business acquisition Business expansion, Project funding, and Working capital, etc.

    This Funding program allows a client to enjoy a 3% low-interest rate and payback period of 1 to 35 years. We can approve a loan/funding for up to $500,000,000.00 or more depending on the nature of the business we are currently funding for and we satisfy our customers’ financial needs and help them succeed

    Application Available
    Apply via E-mail: standardonlineinvestment@gmail.com
    Regards,
    Mr. Hameed Youssef
    Marketing Manager
    Standard Online Finance Ltd.

    ReplyDelete
  24. Do you need a genuine Loan to settle your bills and startup

    business? contact us now with your details to get a good

    Loan at a low rate of 3% per Annual email us:

    Do you need Personal Finance?

    Business Cash Finance?

    Unsecured Finance

    Fast and Simple Finance?

    Quick Application Process?

    Finance. Services Rendered include,

    *Debt Consolidation Finance

    *Business Finance Services

    *Personal Finance services Help

    Please write back if interested with our interest rate EMAIL: muthooth.finance@gmail.com
    Call or add us on what's App +91-7428831341

    ReplyDelete
  25. DO YOU NEED FINANCES? ARE YOU LOOKING FOR FINANCES? ARE YOU LOOKING FOR FINANCING TO ENLARGE YOUR BUSINESS?via email:bullsindia187@gmail.com

    ReplyDelete
  26. QUICK EASY EMERGENCY URGENT LOANS LOAN OFFER EVERYONE APPLY NOW +918929509036 financialserviceoffer876@gmail.com Dr. James Eric

    ReplyDelete